OK, let's talk about how the phrase is used today. Since we're talking about college campuses, we just had a protest on our campus that included students chanting "From the river to the sea..." Did they mean by this "Kill all the Jews?" I know you're not a mind-reader, but maybe a little common sense would help to answer that question?
OK, let's talk about how the phrase is used today. Since we're talking about college campuses, we just had a protest on our campus that included students chanting "From the river to the sea..." Did they mean by this "Kill all the Jews?" I know you're not a mind-reader, but maybe a little common sense would help to answer that question?
since the students likely had no idea what they were talking about, who knows what they were thinking? The point is that it is an antisemitic phrase. Probably many of them did mean to kill the Jews, and others didn't.
Here's an idea: A single, contiguous Palestinian state, approximately along the lines of the '67 borders, not under occupation by the Israelis (hence "free") also goes "from the river to the sea." Consulting your map, you will note this does not require anyone to nuke Tel Aviv. If you took the time to talk to student activists with Students For Justice in Palestine or with Jewish Voices for Peace (both of whom organized our local protest, both of whom, incidentally, have been banned from the campus of Columbia University) you would find that this is what many of them support. Although some would argue that Israeli land-grabs have gone so far that no viable Palestinian state is possible, and the only answer is a single multiethnic democratic state where Jews and Palestinians have equal rights, another option which also does not require anyone to nuke Tel Aviv. Personally, I like to check in with people and find out what they actually think before I accuse them of wanting to kill all the Jews.
Also, just think about seeing 500 college students carrying signs that say "Cease Fire Now" and concluding "Probably many of them did mean to kill the Jews."
"ignores the context and how the phrase is used."
OK, let's talk about how the phrase is used today. Since we're talking about college campuses, we just had a protest on our campus that included students chanting "From the river to the sea..." Did they mean by this "Kill all the Jews?" I know you're not a mind-reader, but maybe a little common sense would help to answer that question?
since the students likely had no idea what they were talking about, who knows what they were thinking? The point is that it is an antisemitic phrase. Probably many of them did mean to kill the Jews, and others didn't.
Here's an idea: A single, contiguous Palestinian state, approximately along the lines of the '67 borders, not under occupation by the Israelis (hence "free") also goes "from the river to the sea." Consulting your map, you will note this does not require anyone to nuke Tel Aviv. If you took the time to talk to student activists with Students For Justice in Palestine or with Jewish Voices for Peace (both of whom organized our local protest, both of whom, incidentally, have been banned from the campus of Columbia University) you would find that this is what many of them support. Although some would argue that Israeli land-grabs have gone so far that no viable Palestinian state is possible, and the only answer is a single multiethnic democratic state where Jews and Palestinians have equal rights, another option which also does not require anyone to nuke Tel Aviv. Personally, I like to check in with people and find out what they actually think before I accuse them of wanting to kill all the Jews.
Also, just think about seeing 500 college students carrying signs that say "Cease Fire Now" and concluding "Probably many of them did mean to kill the Jews."
I think they've made themselves quite clear.
And again, the literalist interpretation of that phrase ignores its history and use as an antisemitic dogwhistle.
Yes, they made themselves quite clear when I talked to them about the things they support. I gave you examples above. All quite clear.
It is an anti genocide "dog whistle" and your claim it is anti semetic is the actual "dog whistle" to support the ongoing genocide in Gaza.